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carrier
01-09-2008, 09:23 AM
It's been almost two months since introducing Wrigley and Fenway, and although Fenway has decided to be the "alpha" bird, they are getting along really well. I had a moment of sadness last night as I watched them play together, though....

I miss my Fenway! I miss my velcro-birdie who couldn't stand to be away or off of mommie for a second while outside of his cage! He never lets me give him scritches or kisses much anymore. He prefers to be with Wrigley, and although he does still occasionally step-up for me (when forced), and will come perch on my shoulder for a few minutes, it's never for very long and then he's off to be with his yellow buddy.

I know this is normal, and was warned of this when I considered bringing in another lovie, but I guess I felt that because he was such a velcro birdie to begin with that he would still enjoy being with his momma on occasion.

I have tried taking just him out of the cage and having alone time, but he usually just flies back to the cage and hangs onto the outside to be next to Wrigley. I have tried bribing him with food, but these attempts have not been hugely successful. He will start off with me but once again will depart for avian companionship within a minute or two.

I guess for whatever reason, last night it occured to me that he's probably gone for good. :cry:

Sweetpeaches
01-09-2008, 09:32 AM
it is sad.

linda040899
01-09-2008, 09:40 AM
Hi Carrie,
I don't agree with your completely but I'm at work and I'm working on month-end/year-end closing, so I will have to elaborate later on this evening...... Hold the thought.

LauraO
01-09-2008, 10:03 AM
Carrie: I don't at all think Fenway won't ever be your velcro buddyanymore. You have to remember that Wrigley is new and Fenway's own species so he is caught up in the excitement and newness of it all. You will have Fenway and Wrigley for years and years and years so moods will change over time. I would work with Wrigley as much as possible so that both birds will come to feel comfortable on you and play on you. There's nothing better than a lovie using you as a play gym, than two or three or four lovies:) . I know it's hard but it sounds like Fenway and Wrigley are hitting it off and that is really great to hear.

One of my most beloved birdies is my orange face lovie Won Ton. He's about five years old and I consider him my Number One Bubbin' Lovin, and worship the ground he flies over. Well, I am not top on Bub's list. I fall a distance third behind his mate Babygirl and my husband. I still get my Bub time, but when I hang out with him and how much varies depending on his life, my life, and my schedule. One of the things I've done over the years is bring him out after I put all the birds to bed so he can hang out with my husband and I alone for awhile. Of course, I am a little sad when I want some Bub time and he's not in the mood, but I still hold him and give him a few kisses to satisfy me.

So maybe you can work with Fenway to find a time, possible after Wrigley is in bed, and spend a little one on one time with him. Birdies are a lot more calm and complacent near bedtime:rolleyes: .

butterfly1061
01-09-2008, 10:36 AM
Carrie,

I agree with Linda & Laura. Molly was my first lovie and he was the picture of "Velcro-birdie". When he was about 10 months old, I bought Daisy cause I thought Molly needed a friend, but they didn't get along at all. Then later I bought Piper - same thing - didn't get along. Well, one day I was in the bird room and all the lovies were out playing when I witnessed a miracle. Molly approached Piper and befriended him :omg: I couldn't believe it! I was happy they had each other to hang out with, but I thought I had lost my first love - Molly. After a bit of time, the newness of a friendship wore off and Molly was back to being my velcro-birdie when they are out of the cage. Molly & Piper share a cage, play all day, sleep together, preen, etc... But Molly is still my first love. Piper does get jealous when I pay attention to Molly, but I give him his time with mommy too. I know it's heartbreaking. It will just take time, but you'll probably have your Fenway back sooner or later. Hang in there :)

Janie
01-09-2008, 10:47 AM
I agree with all the above replies! :D Newness is very exciting and Oliver was besides himself in the first few months after he met Shy and Big Boi. Friends that were just like him! :D 2 1/2 years later he still enjoys being with them and doing birdie things but he is just as much a velcro birdie as he ever was (and he really is) and given the choice, he would choose me over them. I do believe that they have made him a much, much happier bird and I never feel guilty leaving him now. :)

carrier
01-09-2008, 01:07 PM
I would work with Wrigley as much as possible so that both birds will come to feel comfortable on you and play on you.

I have been trying to work with Wrigley more as well-he doesn't love my hands, but is not a biter. He usually just flies away when I make attempts to teach him to step-up. When I do catch him and have a moment, I give scritches and sneak in a few kisses, but he's not into me so much. He doesn't bite, but "beaks" me. It's actually really adorable. He likes it when I coo at him and Fenway, and will take food/treats from my hands when offered and he is convinced that there will be no attempts at grabbing. Usually when fenway does fly over for a visit with me, Wrigley will join in as well, staying away from the hands. My instincts tell me that Wrigley trusts and understands I will not hurt him, but although he will tolerate being caught and handled, he'd rather not.:rolleyes:

Thanks everyone for the kind words and encouraging responses to my feelings of Fenway having "abandoned" me. I really do hope that in time he will decide to share more of his time with me and want mommie-love again. Don't get me wrong...I am elated that the two of them get along so well and watching them play and interact brings me much joy. I feel better knowing they have each others company during the day while I'm at work.

I suppose all of us are going through a period of adjustment and hopefully with time and patience Wrigley will become a bit more attached to me and my velcro-birdie Fenway will return.

ittyandrita
01-09-2008, 01:26 PM
wrigley would probably be more in to you if you'd named him yankee stadium.

Pips mom
01-09-2008, 02:11 PM
Awww, I know it's sad right now, I kinda had the same thing happen with my tiels when I got my male a birdie friend-----he just keeps flying back to the cage to be with her, and the female does the same and they hate being apart from each other! The thing is though that they are SO happy together! AND I can still tell that my boy loves me! I never really was too sad about it because I still spend time with them both and now he is happier when I am not here. I was considering someday getting another lovie for Pip, but I want to wait and make sure the bond is there with us first----I think as long as you have that bond with them, it will always be there. Yes, things do change when a new bird comes along-----but in time I'd be willing to bet that you end up with twice the lovin and maybe even two velcro birdies!

Janie
01-09-2008, 05:31 PM
wrigley would probably be more in to you if you'd named him yankee stadium.

Rachel, you are a bad girl, a very bad girl! And I'm a bad girl for laughing when I read that! :rotfl A Sox fan naming a bird after Yankee Stadium, bite your tongue! :rofl:

Z28Taxman
01-09-2008, 06:45 PM
Rachel, you are a bad girl, a very bad girl! And I'm a bad girl for laughing when I read that! :rotfl A Sox fan naming a bird after Yankee Stadium, bite your tongue! :rofl:

sounds like fightin' words to me! :rofl:

lemonypickett
01-09-2008, 08:28 PM
Hang in there Carrie, I'm sure he will come around. Don't give up.

Buy A Paper Doll
01-09-2008, 08:39 PM
Aw, I know how you feel. When Milo and Melody were first getting to know each other, I would try to separate them to have a little bit of "mommy and me" time with each bird: They hated it. It was funny, and sad, watching my baby boy literally run screaming down the hall and into the wings of The One He Loves.

It's taken some time, and they're still joined at the hip, but they both love spending time with their momma ... together. :)

carrier
01-10-2008, 01:14 PM
Rachel, you are a bad girl, a very bad girl! And I'm a bad girl for laughing when I read that! :rotfl A Sox fan naming a bird after Yankee Stadium, bite your tongue! :rofl:

I chose to ignore the suggestion....:rolleyes:

Typical remark from someone who lives in Brooklyn. I would have named him Shea before that. :rotfl

ittyandrita
01-10-2008, 01:33 PM
i'm just sayin...:whistle:

Janie
01-10-2008, 05:29 PM
. I would have named him Shea before that. :rotfl
:rofl: :rotfl :rofl: :rotfl

What a GREAT comeback! :clap

My hubby and two sons are all Red Sox fans and my sister has lived in NYC for 45 years and is a huge Yankees fan. Lucky me, I don't give a flip about any sport but college football so my season is over! :happy:

Z28Taxman
01-10-2008, 05:48 PM
:rofl: :rotfl :rofl: :rotfl

What a GREAT comeback! :clap

My hubby and two sons are all Red Sox fans and my sister has lived in NYC for 45 years and is a huge Yankees fan. Lucky me, I don't give a flip about any sport but college football so my season is over! :happy:

So you're saying she should have named him JoePa! :whistle:

Janie
01-10-2008, 06:01 PM
So you're saying she should have named him JoePa! :whistle:
:nyah: :nyah: :nyah:

Dave, if it ain't SEC football, who cares? Hmmm, No. 1 LSU (SEC) No. 2 UGA (SEC). :clap

Screamer
01-10-2008, 06:48 PM
must be hard