PDA

View Full Version : Relocating and taking the flock



LauraO
04-28-2007, 02:34 PM
Well I have been living in Hawaii for the last thirteen years and my husband has spent most his life here. We've decided (mostly me as I've wanted to leave for years) that it's time to relocate. We are now in the process of moving from Hawaii to Portland,OR and we are taking most of our stuff and the whole flock. So I thought I'd share the experiences I am having with the flock so it can possibly help those in the future if they make a move such as this.

We currently have 26 birds and an old crotchety bunny and everybirdy is coming along. For the past few months I've been doing research and tapping my friends, and Linda about the best way to proceed. The actually gathering of the necessary stuff, and making the necessary arrangements has been going on for the last month.

First, we went to Portland in March and rented a huge house. Then I quit my job and went to Portland a couple of weeks ago and got some things in the house ready. We bought new cages for Mijo(CAG), Bumpy(Alexandrine) and our two meyer's parrot and I put them together, and bought food and water for when everybirdy arrives in Portland. While I was there we had the carriers we would be using to ship the birds sent to the new house in Portland and I brought them back to Hawaii to save on shipping costs.

After several discussions with airlines and under Linda's advisement, my husband and I decided the bulk of the birds would fly continental cargo. They allow you a lot of latitude in the crates and carriers you can use. They also don't require any health certificates unless you put a value on the birds. Since they ship by weight each of the two bundles will be $239. So we got eight in cabin carriers and will be bolting them into two blocks of four. We also bought smaller critter carriers that will allow us to put two in each carrier. The birds that have a mate will go two to a carrier and the single birds will go in one. It is a small carrier but there is enough room for them to move around. We have also bought a bunch of those small budgie water containers and drilled holes in the carriers to put the water portion in, and they will be getting millet to eat. Most people don't include water but fruit. however, Hawaii has strict laws about taking fruit out of State so that's not an option.

Here are the kennels we will be bolting together

http://www.thepetstoreonline.com/cakesotop.html

Here are the carriers they will be in, except for the Meye's who will have one kennel to themselves and a bigger carrier

http://www.ferretstore.com/smalsuppetta.html

So as it stands now the birds will arrive at the Honolulu airport on Tuesday at 3:30pm and leave at 6:30pm, arriving in Houston at 7:00am the next day. they then leave out of Houston at 9:00am and arrive in Portland at 11:21am. It is a long time for them, but 1) I have spoken to a lot of people who tell me the birds should be okay, 2) much of the flight is overnight so they will be sleeping, 3) they will be close to their flock, and 4) they have food and water.

Now, Me, Mijo and Bumpy (them with health certificates) will fly the direct Northwest red eye flight from Honolulu to Portland. We arrive an 1 1/2 early to check in and the flight leaves at 10:55pm on Tuesday with the birds riding in Cargo, arriving Wednesday in Portland at 7:30am. We will get a rental car and head to the house we rented and Bumpy and Mijo will go in their new cages to chill out. I will be breaking down all the lovebird cages and taking them with me as luggage on the flight, and will start putting them together while I wait for the flock to arrive at 11:21am. I have already set up a place in one of the rooms with a couple of perches and the Meyer's parrots cages where the bulk of the birds can hang out if it takes awhile to get everyting set up.

When I go pick up the bulk of the birds I will have all the necessary vetinary and emergency clinics' names and numbers in case somebirdy is in need of immediately medical care, and am prepared to go anywhere necessary straight from the airport. If not, we we all head back to the house and we will start our new life, and I will monitor the birds closely (as always) over the next couple of weeks to make sure everybirdy is healthy.

Oh, one important fact to remember that all the shipping requirements are often of the state you are shipping to and not from. So I called Hawaii's State vet's office to get all the information, and they gave me the State vet's number for Oregon who I called. So when finding information you it's most prudent to find out the requirements of the State you're in, the State you're going to, and the airline. It's also important to call more than once as you'd be surprised how much different and inaccurate information you can recieve.

Whew! I know this is long but I hope it's helpful:D

Oh, and we are also filling the Matson crate this weekend as well:x .

Eliza
04-28-2007, 03:37 PM
Glad to see the move is going well :) You are very organized, chica!

I'm kind of bummed that I won't get to meet you when I go visit my friend living in Oahu, though ;)

I hope that everything goes well.

-e-

shylevon
04-28-2007, 03:48 PM
It sure is a lot of work, but I agree that your information will be helpful to others.

I hope they let you put lots of stickers on the crates regarding the fragile cargo they hold. I would hate for the trip to be more bumpy for them that it needs to be.

Good luck with your move.

Jessica
04-28-2007, 04:53 PM
Thank you for sharing all the information. I wish you all the best of luck traveling and settling into your new home!

Flapjack
04-28-2007, 06:04 PM
Hello! I live near Portland myself! Only one bird store here that I know of, but lots of breeders. The weather is getting beautiful here right about now. Welcome to the neighborhood!!:clap:

butterfly1061
04-28-2007, 07:00 PM
WOW Laura! What a trip/move :omg: I hope everybirdie has a good trip and everybirdie is safe & sound come Wednesday. Let us know how everything went as soon as you can. I'll be thinking about you. :)

LauraO
04-29-2007, 12:59 PM
I hope they let you put lots of stickers on the crates regarding the fragile cargo they hold. I would hate for the trip to be more bumpy for them that it needs to be.

This is a great idea! I looked at two places last night but didn't find any. I also need to find live animal stickers. I'll call the airlines today and see what they suggest.

linda040899
04-29-2007, 01:17 PM
I hope they let you put lots of stickers on the crates regarding the fragile cargo they hold. I would hate for the trip to be more bumpy for them that it needs to be.

Good luck with your move.
Laura,
Don't have to worry about stickers! Continental will put them all over the containers if you don't have any!!! Make no mistake about it. Everyone that sees those containers will know they contain birds. Take the number for Quick Pak with you and call often to check on the status of your birds. The airline people are very nice and are happy to let you know where your birds are. I usually try to keep in touch with them, just so they know that I'm paying attention to what's going on. I ship via Continental exclusively and they've always done a wonderful job for me! :)

Susan27
04-29-2007, 04:22 PM
Wow Laura, that is so much work. I am guessing most people don't realize all that must go into moving! After this thread, I will NEVER be moving EVER!

Good luck. I hope all goes wonderfully, and I will be thinking of you, your family, and flock on your journey.

LauraO
04-29-2007, 06:30 PM
Laura,
Don't have to worry about stickers! Continental will put them all over the containers if you don't have any!!! Make no mistake about it. Everyone that sees those containers will know they contain birds. Take the number for Quick Pak with you and call often to check on the status of your birds. The airline people are very nice and are happy to let you know where your birds are. I usually try to keep in touch with them, just so they know that I'm paying attention to what's going on. I ship via Continental exclusively and they've always done a wonderful job for me! :)

Linda: Thanx for the info! I don't leave til' five hours after the flock and arrive three hours before so it's good to know I'll be able to check up on them, and you can guarantee I will.

Susan: Moving is always bad. It's the 3000 miles of water that makes it a little more difficult:x .

Heather: If I wasn't soooooooooooo birdy burnt out I would be more fearful of living near MJ cause she does have some pretty ones. However, this year my hens have laid about 60 or 70 eggs and I'm just sick of it. I tried and tried to get each and everyone of those eggs taken care of, but still two got by me and hatched and we got another two youngin's. So, NO! I DO NOT NEED ANOTHER PARROT, ESPECIALLY NO MORE LOVEBIRDIES :p .

dmj64
04-29-2007, 09:48 PM
Moving 26 birds! It wore me out just to ship my two from Oahu to Ft Worth! Wow!

Sounds like you got it all worked out. What a difference the mainland is! I myself regret having to move; it is all about money :( .

Good Luck and happiness for you & your buddies in your new home!

Dennis
Formerly of Kailua
(I'm listening to Island 98.5 on line right now because I miss it so much:cry: )

mjm8321
04-30-2007, 02:03 PM
Laura,

I do not envy your move, but you do seem to have everything in place.

Call me if you need any help with anything and have a safe trip!

I'm thinking Laura ought to be pretty pooped out from the flight and maybe I can slip a lovebird or two or three in with hers and she'll never know. ;)

Janie
04-30-2007, 05:57 PM
I'm thinking Laura ought to be pretty pooped out from the flight and maybe I can slip a lovebird or two or three in with hers and she'll never know. ;)

:rofl: MJ, it's worth a try! :whistle:

Laura, good luck and I know you'll be so relieved when it's a done deal! :)

LauraO
05-01-2007, 05:42 PM
Laura, good luck and I know you'll be so relieved when it's a done deal! :)

Janie: That is just too true. As the time approaches for the birds to be dropped off at the airport, I get more and more nervous.

The birds are now all having a hard time. Last night was wing clips (not for everybirdy) and today I took away all the cages cause I had to wash them, the perches and toys as I will be taking those with me as luggage. I have several hens that have been laying eggs but each is on like her third clutch so I had to take them away. I'm hoping they'll make it okay. If not, I got the necessary vet number ready (thanks MJ!).

OMG!!!! You know, I must have two or three hundred dollars worth the rope perches. I'd have you knows how many more if my Meyer's Cookie would stop shredding them every month:x . Let's not even talk about the toys :blush: :blush: .

Well I'm off to get some more stuff done. Everybirdy has to be at the airport at 3:30pm Hawaii time, which is three hours before their flight:mad: .

Susan27
05-01-2007, 06:42 PM
Laura, once again I hope...no, I know all will go well!! Good luck, safe flight for ALL of your flock and family!

Janie
05-01-2007, 08:13 PM
Laura......BIG HUGS TO YOU and to your FLOCK! Let us hear from you when you can!

LauraO
05-02-2007, 04:23 PM
EVERYBIRDY MADE IT:happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:

Me Bumpy and Mijo made it to Portland at 7:30am this morning and at 12:00 I was able to pick up the rest of the flock. They were happy to here my voice and all started chirping when I was loading them in the car. It took me a while to get everybirdy out, but they are all find. Well, except for my lovie hen Spike whose toe I shut in the closet door. It hasn't swelled much but I'm keeping an eye on it.

Oh, and I got a health certificate for Bumpy and Mijo even though the last of three people I spoke with at NWA insisted I didn't need one. Well, guess what the first thing they asked for was:confused: . I'm glad I went ahead and got one.

This was a very stressful and hellation experience to say the least. While we were doing the last parts of the cages yesterday we were both flipping out and screaming at each other. Luckily, once it was time to get the lovies in it was all business and everything went well.

The only bad thing that happened is I was unable to bring the cages with me, because of the dimension requirements. So I'm off to see what I can find.

Whew!!!!

mjm8321
05-02-2007, 04:33 PM
:clap: :clap:

Hooray! Glad to here everyone made it! Unfortunately, stress is a big part of moving, for birds and humans alike. Sorry about the cages; that stinks. wish i could help out with that, but I literally have one tiny cage unoccupied and it it only something I use in case of emergency.
Good to know your here now, in one piece and hopefully will be able to get some well needed rest in the next few days.

Janie
05-02-2007, 05:03 PM
Oh my Lord, what a HUGE relief, Laura! :clap::clap:

Buy A Paper Doll
05-02-2007, 07:08 PM
Woohoo!!! You made it!

Welcome back :D

Cathy
05-02-2007, 07:30 PM
Wow, congratulations. But what do you mean about not being able to bring the cages with you? How many do you have to buy? What a shame after all of your careful planning.

Eliza
05-02-2007, 07:35 PM
Whew -- YOU MADE IT :)

I'm glad that everyone had a safe trip. I hope that you all settle in peacefully!

-e-

Susan27
05-02-2007, 09:52 PM
Oh Laura, I so glad everyone made it to their new home successfully!! Have fun unpacking...the birdies will sing to you while you work!

butterfly1061
05-03-2007, 01:53 PM
Laura,

I'm so glad to hear everybirdie made it through the trip. :happy: Now everyone can start to settle down and get back to normal (if there is such a thing in the birdie world :rolleyes: )

LauraO
05-03-2007, 04:59 PM
Well now that everybirdy's here I've started fretting. They all seem really tired and puffed up. I don't know how much of this is the trip, the change, and the temperature or if they may be getting sick. Not having their cages makes it worse cause they are all out in one of the rooms so I can't monitor their poops and food consumption. The temps are much different. We lived in one of the hottest places on Oahu so the birds are more used to warm weather. I have the heater on 75, but it doesn't feel like 75 anywhere in the house. I was really worried about last night.

I woke up and drove to Seattle this morning to get my car. I just got back and will keep an eye on the birds.

My husband sent the cages fedex. It was easier than buying new ones. They should be here tomorrow or Saturday. I will move the birds upstairs at that point. The room has carpet and gets some sun so they'll be better off.

Flapjack
05-03-2007, 10:18 PM
Glad you got here safely. It sure is cold isn't it? Such a change from last week. It is supposed to be warmer over the weekend. Again, welcome to the neighborhood!
Jeni

Buy A Paper Doll
05-03-2007, 10:40 PM
Hey Laura,

I would suspect the puffing up is the temperature change. I keep the house at 75 as well, but some parts are warmer, some parts are drafty, just depends...

The birds are probably being quiet because everything is so different in their little world right now.

Hang in there, hon.

Z28Taxman
05-03-2007, 10:48 PM
Hey Laura,

I would suspect the puffing up is the temperature change. I keep the house at 75 as well, but some parts are warmer, some parts are drafty, just depends...

The birds are probably being quiet because everything is so different in their little world right now.

Hang in there, hon.


They're chilly and jet-lagged. Probably mad at leaving a tropical island for Portland too. :rofl:

LauraO
05-06-2007, 06:12 PM
Well it's been busy here but everybirdy is beginning to adjust. My husband sent their cages and they arrived on Friday. I put them together and put them in a warmer room and they were happy. They were even happier that night when I put their cozies in. I'm still lagging with the toys and stuff but they still aren't that playful and will start getting them up today or tomorrow. We still want to get the lovebirdies new cages, because they are getting old and too small to spend a lot of time in. However, they are more familiar and comforting to them at this point so it's better to have them than new cages.

The birds are in the smallest room in the house. We have two bedrooms upstairs and two downstairs, but seems like the downstairs bedrooms just don't get much warmth no matter what I set the heater at. So the birds are likely to stay upstairs. I'm just thinking about moving them into the master bedroom. It's the biggest room in the house with a big window. It's also a room they could destroy and wouldn't cost much to replace the paint and shampoo the carpet, which gets dirty even with plastic runners. Anyway, I bought them this big orbital hanging playgym that a local store here sells. It would be great by the big window in the master bedroom and they could get a bunch of light.

I can't wait til' their cage stands and toys come. Most of all that is packed in the crate which leaves Hawaii tomorrow and should be here in two weeks. I have their cages on boxes right now and only have the toys that were in their cages, but we are making do.

I'm still watching for infection and making sure everybirdy is eating and getting more energy as the days go by.

butterfly1061
05-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Glad to hear you & the birdies are settling down. Gosh, what a move! It's nice to have a birdie-friend close by, huh? Poor Mijo sure has had a rough time. Over time, I'm sure he'll understand he's staying with you and being re-homed and the house isn't so scary after all. Keep us posted :)

DebSpace
05-07-2007, 12:01 AM
Wow, what a HUGE undertaking! Welcome back to the mainland. So extremely happy all made it back without any problems.:happy:

mjm8321
05-07-2007, 01:23 PM
Glad it's going well Laura and the birdies are settling in some. It was a big move and maybe you can take a few minutes to breathe now.